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poasiods · Sep 05, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

The hint given by Zinn for finding his secret laboratory...

Could someone tell me exactly how this leads to finding him in the Falls? I'm guessing what Zinn meant was for us to stop thinking when it starts to hurt.

Johny bravo · Sep 05, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

It is in the tyrian zone called the falls. There is a cliff just west of center that is labeled "The Falls" you can click on it. If you have M.O.X you can jump off it into the secret layer.

Frozen Bacon · Sep 05, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo

It is in the tyrian zone called the falls. There is a cliff just west of center that is labeled "The Falls" you can click on it. If you have M.O.X you can jump off it into the secret layer.

I don't think the OP is asking where his lab is. He is asking how the hint has anything to do with the location.

poasiods, I have no clue how the hint related to anything whatsoever.

poasiods · Sep 05, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Yes, I've completed the quest already. When I first tried to find it myself before having it ruined by others, the hint did throw me off, as I was under the impression that the place had something to do with environmental degeneration. It doesn't seem to relate to the cliff in Falls in any way.

*Darcy* · Sep 05, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

The clue refers to the mesmers, I would think. A lot of their skills only cause damage if you do something?

poasiods · Sep 05, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

I suppose the picture of a fall might lead people to the Falls and the clue might have people find the Mesmer boss using 'Empathy'... That hardly makes more sense than a badly written Grey's Anatomy fanfic, though.

Arduin · Sep 05, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

From the picture in the manual I guessed the lair had to be somewhere in the Maguuma Jungle... yet I couldn't solve the 'riddle'.

About the same time one alliance member happily spoiled this little riddle by shouting in a-chat 'ZINN IS IN THE FALLS'... which ended my attempt to solve it.

Still like to know if anyone deduced the location of the lair without just looking for it in every cranny of the map.

rick1027 · Sep 05, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

by the picture we figured the jungle one guy in our group said it looked like an area we vanquished as a guild and the he was right. we went there and explored til we figured it out

Rainbow Ftw · Sep 05, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Well, before hearing all of this stuff I looked in the Vlox's Falls EotN outpost and looked around there yet ofcourse found nothing.. I think the area in the pic loks similar to that outpost though.

Sharkman · Sep 05, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Still like to know if anyone deduced the location of the lair without just looking for it in every cranny of the map.

I recognized the falls as soon as I saw them in the manual.

The hint is kind of vague I suppose, but didnt take long for the location to get out.

HawkofStorms · Sep 05, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

It's easy if you have played since the original game. The fall is a very recognizable area (due to the waterfall) and many people could recognize it from the picture. It's also been involved in stuff like this before (the mini moa quest).

Kumu Honua · Sep 05, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

I may be mistaken but.....

Possibly because it's the farthest you have to travel without a town/outpost nearby? Keep going and going till the going hurts!

You have to travel a short way out of the outpost into the next zone. All the way through that zone, and then all the way winding around the next till the very end of it...

DarkFlame · Sep 05, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Like others, the pic is very recognizable.

As for the tip, assuming Zinn views us as the dumb meat shields that only know how to hack and slash, its very likely a reference to the wind riders there.

Aeon221 · Sep 05, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

It's a reference to jumping off the cliff, which is what you do to get to the lab. Stop when it hurts? Like, uh, when you hit the ground, maybe?

edit: Ah yes, it could also mean the far more obvious "Stop thinking when it hurts", which would be in character with the general Asuran snobbiness.

Jimmy Dean · Sep 06, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

I've long thought this specific location was one of the prettiest places in the game. The first time I saw it I thought it was a shame that it was so unbelievably FAR AWAY that most people would never have the pleasure of seeing it. Besides the picture in the manual being a dead giveaway to anyone who has been there, Stop (looking, traveling, killing foes, thinking, fill in the blank) when it hurts because it IS a PAIN to get this FAR OUT, especially if like many people you skipped the jungle in the rush to get to the desert from Sanctum Cay. The deep area of the Falls was so unexplored Anet put Totem Axes there to get some visitors.

Nice little bonus, the whole Golem thing. More content like this will keep us going for awhile!
JD

Showtime · Sep 20, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45

i hate the jungle cuz it makes me dizzy and I get lost there.
can someone show a map of how to get to the falls.

DarkFlame · Sep 21, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by Showtime

i hate the jungle cuz it makes me dizzy and I get lost there.
can someone show a map of how to get to the falls.

Directions from the wikia.

ALF71BE · Sep 21, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Since I saw MOX's manual I knew which fall of The Falls it was. It's an spectacular sight that I could easily remember, considering I spent like 4 hours when I was young and noob "clearing" and mapping it with henchies. There's no such place with the orange tone and that waterfall.

I couldn't believe people couldn't find/recognize it and wasn't surprised when someone spoiled the fun. To the date I haven't even read MOX manual beyond first page.

Showtime · Sep 21, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by DarkFlame

Directions from the wikia.

Thx for the map! Now can some tell me how to get up to the vine to cross over after passing the trader. Do I need to find a seed or something. I really hate the jungle since it all looks the same to me and I can seem to find the ramp up and out.

EDIT: LOL figured it out. It's still the dumbest place in the game. 1st time to the falls, should be neat.

Sep 05, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59	#1
poasiods Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: R/	Stop when it hurts... The hint given by Zinn for finding his secret laboratory... Could someone tell me exactly how this leads to finding him in the Falls? I'm guessing what Zinn meant was for us to stop thinking when it starts to hurt.

Sep 05, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37	#5
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	The clue refers to the mesmers, I would think. A lot of their skills only cause damage if you do something? __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Sep 05, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#14
Aeon221 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: [TEW] Profession: N/	It's a reference to jumping off the cliff, which is what you do to get to the lab. Stop when it hurts? Like, uh, when you hit the ground, maybe? edit: Ah yes, it could also mean the far more obvious "Stop thinking when it hurts", which would be in character with the general Asuran snobbiness. Last edited by Aeon221; Sep 05, 2008 at 11:59 PM // 23:59..

Sep 05, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#2
Johny bravo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: [SoS] Profession: N/	It is in the tyrian zone called the falls. There is a cliff just west of center that is labeled "The Falls" you can click on it. If you have M.O.X you can jump off it into the secret layer.

Sep 05, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#4
poasiods Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: R/	Yes, I've completed the quest already. When I first tried to find it myself before having it ruined by others, the hint did throw me off, as I was under the impression that the place had something to do with environmental degeneration. It doesn't seem to relate to the cliff in Falls in any way.

Sep 05, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#6
poasiods Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: R/	I suppose the picture of a fall might lead people to the Falls and the clue might have people find the Mesmer boss using 'Empathy'... That hardly makes more sense than a badly written Grey's Anatomy fanfic, though.

Sep 05, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00	#7
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	From the picture in the manual I guessed the lair had to be somewhere in the Maguuma Jungle... yet I couldn't solve the 'riddle'. About the same time one alliance member happily spoiled this little riddle by shouting in a-chat 'ZINN IS IN THE FALLS'... which ended my attempt to solve it. Still like to know if anyone deduced the location of the lair without just looking for it in every cranny of the map.

Sep 05, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02	#8
rick1027 Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: W/R	by the picture we figured the jungle one guy in our group said it looked like an area we vanquished as a guild and the he was right. we went there and explored til we figured it out

Sep 05, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08	#9
Rainbow Ftw Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Guild: ... Profession: A/W	Well, before hearing all of this stuff I looked in the Vlox's Falls EotN outpost and looked around there yet ofcourse found nothing.. I think the area in the pic loks similar to that outpost though.

Sep 05, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08	#11
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	It's easy if you have played since the original game. The fall is a very recognizable area (due to the waterfall) and many people could recognize it from the picture. It's also been involved in stuff like this before (the mini moa quest).

Sep 05, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04	#12
Kumu Honua Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008	I may be mistaken but..... Possibly because it's the farthest you have to travel without a town/outpost nearby? Keep going and going till the going hurts! You have to travel a short way out of the outpost into the next zone. All the way through that zone, and then all the way winding around the next till the very end of it...

Sep 05, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#13
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	Like others, the pic is very recognizable. As for the tip, assuming Zinn views us as the dumb meat shields that only know how to hack and slash, its very likely a reference to the wind riders there.

Sep 06, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56	#15
Jimmy Dean Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006	I've long thought this specific location was one of the prettiest places in the game. The first time I saw it I thought it was a shame that it was so unbelievably FAR AWAY that most people would never have the pleasure of seeing it. Besides the picture in the manual being a dead giveaway to anyone who has been there, Stop (looking, traveling, killing foes, thinking, fill in the blank) when it hurts because it IS a PAIN to get this FAR OUT, especially if like many people you skipped the jungle in the rush to get to the desert from Sanctum Cay. The deep area of the Falls was so unexplored Anet put Totem Axes there to get some visitors. Nice little bonus, the whole Golem thing. More content like this will keep us going for awhile! JD

Sep 20, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#16
Showtime Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons Profession: R/P	i hate the jungle cuz it makes me dizzy and I get lost there. can someone show a map of how to get to the falls.

Sep 21, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31	#18
ALF71BE Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway Profession: R/	Since I saw MOX's manual I knew which fall of The Falls it was. It's an spectacular sight that I could easily remember, considering I spent like 4 hours when I was young and noob "clearing" and mapping it with henchies. There's no such place with the orange tone and that waterfall. I couldn't believe people couldn't find/recognize it and wasn't surprised when someone spoiled the fun. To the date I haven't even read MOX manual beyond first page.